You are arguing that faith precedes regeneration. However, that cannot be so - because the Bible declares that the blind, deaf and dead all descriptive of the lost need the miracle of sight, hearing and life. So your claim is that the miracle comes before the faith regeneration before faith.
I would present the woman with the issue of blood, one of the lepers that came back to Jesus and countless others and His words that said your faith has made you well. Not you are well, now go and believe or have faith. She had faith that she could touch his garment and be healed. Then, she did and she was.
Six points to argue against choice: 1. The Good Shepherd. If Jesus died for everyone why did he tell the Jews, they were not His sheep? Romans 6, where disciples who chose to be with Jesus. Did Jesus celebrate their choice? No, He told them the Father had not drawn them, so they were not His. If He died for all men, why did He blind the Jews, except His elect?
What does the Word elect mean? If we are Ambassadors, then we were appointed by the Head of State. An Ambassadorship is not a volunteer position. It is an appointed position. Those He foreknew, God predestined Rom.
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It is a specific term. Romans 9. Neither our will nor our works save us. So how do you argue with this one? Christ himself is the sacrifice that atones for our sins--and not only our sins but the sins of ALL the world. Where does one start? Any of the attributes of GOD that we exhibit are in us marred and devastatingly fallen for they were not as perfect as HIS even before the fall.
Therefore HIS ways and thoughts are not ours but are higher than ours.
By way of example we are taught by earthly teachers not to exalt any attribute of GOD over another yet John , the most quoted verse that in HIS word, is only quoted once, hmmm. In Romans if it is fixed as only referring to national salvation or calling how can Paul, one man, an individual not a nation, give his life for a nation.
More is going on here than to thrust or emphasize a national interpretation upon the text. Salvation is what Paul is concerned with for all Israel which is borne out in the following versus, cutting the nation into two groups therefore while the nation as a whole had revelatory responsibility there is a saved portion and an unsaved portion. Who decided that? Abraham and Sarah in trying to have a child discovered they could not and acknowledged GOD had not allowed them to have offspring.
Their will could not produce what they longed for yet their will produced an enemy through Ishmael.
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What portion did Isaac have in the promise - none. GOD gracious and merciful granted what they thought impossible even laughable. Then what do we do? We say what was definitely impossible for the first child of the promise is possible for all the rest, for the plural children is used for those of and not of the promise. We impose that in scripture if Romans is truly about salvation.
The flesh profits nothing to appropriate for itself spiritual things that are impossible for it to do so.
Emphatically NO. Is there injustice in what was impossible for the flesh to do with respect to the promise - NO! How can that be true? Because it is GOD who is making the case of having mercy or hardening after the objection is raised that GOD reveals is in the heart of the audience he is appealing to.
Was Pharaoh about to repent? GOD tells us HE raised him up for this very purpose.
For who can resist his will? Sorry this is so long. We must always begin and end with the scriptures. If I may offer a guess you can feel free to reject, I believe GOD did this to completely eliminate any vestige of pride, the first sin, from the heart and mind of man. Is it really so hard to believe that men sin and deserve their wages and grace is amazing because it is demonstrated at all? This is neither mutually exclusive nor illogical we just chafe against it.
A final word, I was told by one of my elders that, in my words, this god of Calvinism is evil. A final thought to ponder, if this Calvinism is true would you really talk back to GOD and reject HIS gift of salvation and suffer eternal torment or be all the more thankful for it and receive and accept HIS gift of eternal life.
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Are you prepared for that or are you prepared to pronounce GOD as evil? But since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles. You have the words of eternal life. And how can they believe in the One of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach? He could not be found, because God had taken him away. By faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that comes by faith. For the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Acts 23So they set a day to meet with Paul, and many people came to the place he was staying.
He expounded to them from morning to evening, testifying about the kingdom of God and persuading them about Jesus from the Law of Moses and the Prophets. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them. God is sovereign, man cannot come to God on his own, we are made alive through faith in Jesus Christ.
Eph Being dead and deserving of wrath, we are made alive with Christ by the riches of God's great love and mercy. God's kindness to us through Christ we are saved by grace and through faith. Through hearing God's word, empowered by His Holy Spirit, we believe in Jesus Christ and calling on him we are saved by grace through faith. We are commissioned to spread the word of the gospel of Jesus Christ to the world that all people might come to God through faith in Jesus Christ. What profit is there in 'BEING' calvinist or armenian except to endlessly argue over interpretations of portions of scripture, to what gain?
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What great profit to invest our time and energy into lifting each other up and sharing the gospel of repentance and faith in Jesus Christ? Ephesians Eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call— one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. If the sinner is spiritually dead then salvation is totally the work of a sovereign and gracious God who in His love elects some and in His justice allows the non-elect to face what we all deserve, condemnation, BUT GOD But Jesus said he would draw all men if he was lifted up Jn.
A Calvinist, Dennis would say your statement is absolutely correct God does the drawing. How does He do it?
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He restores the Holy Spirit in you restoring what Adam lost and what you being born in Adam never had. At that moment you are saved, elected, chosen, past tense completed action. God initiated it all, the entire salvation process. Ordo Salutis Order of Salvation. Arminian theology requires God paying you back for your decision by giving you the Holy Spirit. Totally Depraved. With respect to limited Atonement your John reference, God the father chose only the elect, the Holy Spirit indwelt only the elect, but the Son died for all?
You have a renegade in your Godhead, and making the writer of Hebrews a liar. If he died for all the lost how is that sufficient? When I come to a teaching which is hard to understand or seems to teach opposing things, I first must filter it through the easy to understand principles of the Word.
One if those Principles is that God is no Respector of Persons. Calvinism does not make it through that filter: "Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.